Updates - Mixer App
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Added a little color picker
An option to generate the random password is available
The background Image URL field now is accompanied by a carousel gallery of AI-generated background images to use
You can host your own images at Imgur or such still, but to make life easier, I'm offer hosted options. Let me know if you want more added
The room name is listed now in the top-right of the Mixer App
If the room has a password set, there is a button to copy-to-clipboard the password
** on production and alpha
Just for example of what you can fairly easily do with the Mixer:
When using the Mixer App (vdo.ninja/alpha/mixer), the &limittotalbitrate value was set to 350-kbps before, but now I have it set to 1500-kbps. Guests in the Mixer App should as a result now see the director's broadcast output in 3x higher quality now, for better or worse.
I may adjust the default value in the mixer based on user issue reports
The slider doesn't appear if not using the &limittotalbitrate value in the URL (or if not using the Mixer App). It's just too confusing to explain to include it by default.
** change on alpha
&screenshareaspectratio (already existed) is now used within the Mixer App's WHIP/Twitch output scene. This will force the screen share capture that is used to publish to the CDN to stay at a 16:9 aspect ratio, regardless of the window's actual aspect ratio.
-- The combined result of these two flags on the Mixer's publishing output is a 16:9 output to Twitch / etc. without black bars, regardless of window size. Resolution might not be exactly 720p still, but that's something I can work on.
Fixed a minor issue with invite links on the Mixer App
Fixed a minor issue (I hope), where the videos might vertically stack when it should preferably horizontally stack (1-pixel difference).
** on alpha, with the Mixer updated at https://vdo.ninja/alpha/
* available at vdo.ninja/alpha/mixer
Mixer also now has built-in support for the option to obfuscate links with invite.cam.
The option to add custom URL parameters to the invite link also added to the Mixer App.
An issue with how the &broadcast toggle was being saved to local storage was fixed in the Mixer App.
on production at https://vdo.ninja/mixer
Further improved the new Mixer's feature where you can have OBS and the Mixer synced, so you can have OBS and the Mixer change scenes/layout automatically when either changes. (ie: change your OBS scene will auto activate the linked VDO.Ninja mixer layout.) The improvement is more customization over whether you want the sync to work both ways or not, and I've improved the speed of syncing to be instant.
Note: The benefit of being able to switch just the layout, rather than scene, is that you only need one browser source in OBS (not even needing OBS really either). Having one browser source means fewer resources used for both the director and guests. All controllable via hotkeys or API. ** works on vdo.ninja/alpha/mixer?api=APIKEY
The Mixer App on alpha has had several bug fixes; thank you for reporting them (vdo.ninja/alpha/mixer)
You can specify the animation speed now
Manually enter values for element size/position (rather than just by dragging)
IFrame source support added, so you can specify a website as a source
Background images now display, even if no video stream is active
URL-param pass-thru added to the Mixer App. So &meshcast now works with the Mixer App, etc.
The Mixer App now has the director defaulting to &screensharetype=3, so they can screen share and host a camera at the same time.
Fixed a couple minor CSS issues, such as the hot keys being hidden at times, the control bar being partially offscreen, or the mini-preview breaking the control bar when toggling views. (partially pushed to production; a full fix on alpha)
Added the option to change OBS scenes whenever you change layouts in the Mixer App. For this to work:
&remote needs to be on the scene link (should be there if using the provided scene link)
The idea here is that you can have OBS overlays/mixer apply in sync to your VDO.Ninja custom mix layouts, and even control your show remotely without OBS even on the same computer.
Added the option to save scenes in the editor with pixel-units instead of relative percentiles. Not recommended for most users, but can make it easy to manually edit an exported layout (pixels vs fractions). The little thumbnails will update.
Added support to VDO.Ninja so that layouts can be expressed as a relative percentile or pixel specific (for advanced users). VDO.Ninja will assume wp,hp,xp, and yp are "pixel" based units for x,y,h,w. If you canvas/browser is too big or small, things may overflow or not fit correctly. -- please note: w,h,x,y take priority over wp,hp,xp,yp, if both are present in a layout file.
*** Changes on alpha at vdo.ninja/alpha/mixer for testing and feedback.
vdo.ninja/alpha/mixer was updated to have the director be included as a slot option, so you can include yourself in the video layouts now.
Changes to how layouts are issued have been updated -- you'll need to do a hard browser refresh (particularly in OBS) for things to work now, if using alpha + mixer.
Invite/scene links in the mixer get copied to the clipboard when pressed, rather than open.
If a guest is using &minipreview and is issued a layout, the mini preview only shows now if they are not in the current layout.
The Mixer App now has initial support for the http/wss API. https://api.vdo.ninja/{apikey}/layout/N to use, where N is the layout (starting at 1). 0 is auto-mix. (feedback valued, as more will be added to this over time)
Fixed a switching bug with mixer on alpha and added in the director's control bar, so they can share video/audio.; with this, you can output the OBS Virtual cam feed to the guests, as they will be in broadcast-mode already.
Minor fixes to the mixer have been applied; (lots more to do)
More improvements to the mixer-app on alpha; mainly UX/UI improvments, with a couple bug fixes. (vdo.ninja/alpha/mixer)
The Mixer App (https://vdo.ninja/beta/mixer) has been updated with changes. While the mixer is still under exploratory development, it uses a new UX/UI approach to assigning guests to slots. Much less drag/drop-based. These changes were based on user-feedback; lots more feedback to still dig thru.
Keyboard hotkey support added to the mixer app on vdo.ninja/alpha/mixer (change layouts using 0 to 9). plus other fixes/tweaks.
Beta updated will all recent changes, including mixer.
vdo.ninja/alpha/mixer has further fixes/tweaks. Basic, but functional now I think.
While it's still a work in progress, the Mixer App has hit a new milestone of development and is up on alpha at https://vdo.ninja/alpha/mixer Some of the functions available now in the update mixer:
The ability to switch between a preview of the mixed scene and the director's view (toggle button for this)
Each element allows for setting of: border thickness, color, margin, border roundness, media coverage, background image (URL), and animated transition.
Scene editor, with drag/resize capabilities
Layout refreshes automatically on scene reload
Default layout is scene load now blank
Saves scenes to local storage, for reuse
Copy/paste export of JSON of constructed scenes for use in the URL without needing mixer controller (&layout=JSONOBJECT)
Most of the work so far has gone into rewriting parts of the mixer logic to support more complex layouts, but also aspects like switching between director view and scene view has required a few nights of head bashing.
I'm hoping to get this all tied up as soon as possible and released as a v22, where I'll continue to refine things. (still some lingering bugs and a couple broken features)
Fixed a password issue with the vdo.ninja/mixer (passwords can be set via the URL now)
Removed the animated background of the mixer app based on feedback (more feedback on it welcomed)
I did a walk thru video, demoing and explaining the Mixer App I made the other month. I realize the mixer prototype isn't the greatest, as it's hard to understand how to use, but hopefully this helps address that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xdZq4SCBoA https://vdo.ninja/beta/mixer Feedback on the mixer welcomed.
Made some improvements to the prototype mixer I've been working on; on alpha https://vdo.ninja/alpha/mixer I'm still experimenting with it, but you can add custom layouts now. I think it's functional, but the UI/UX still stinks.
Created a sample app that allows for custom-layouts and mixing, using just VDO.Ninja and basic Javascript. https://vdo.ninja/examples/mixer It's a very crude prototype of what's possible via the IFRAME API. I'll be extending a version of it to allow for structured scene layouts and custom dynamic layout switching in the director's control center, etc.
To play with this prototype though: Go to above link, enter a room name when prompted, and then open a few guest feeds with the "invite guest link" button.
Next, as your guests streams join, their associated stream ID will appear on the far left. Drag a stream ID into a slot position: 1,2,3 or 4. You can do this for up to 4 stream Ids, as there are 4 slots.
Once guests are loaded into slots, you can select a scene layout at the top of the page. It will apply the scene layout, relative to what has been assigned to the slots. If a slot is empty, it will be left empty when drawing the layout.
Stream IDs can be dragged to other spots or removed. Must select the scene layout to re-apply after It should be possible to create custom layouts, with assets, transitions and effects, when I'm done.
Mixer App has a few new toggle options to help configure the guest-invite options. AEC, auto gain, and denosing - toggling off can give better audio quality in some cases.
OBS scene syncing in the Mixer App works both ways now - changing the OBS scene will activate the corresponding layout in the Mixer App if the layout is linked to a scene. As already is the case, selecting a layout will activate the OBS scene it is linked to as well.
You can use the API to control the mixer layout now, via the Mixer App. https://api.vdo.ninja/APIKEY/layout/2
-- there were some bugs with this when using it via the Mixer App before, and there wasn't much documentation on the companion.vdo.ninja site. All fixed.
Needs to be enabled in the Mixer's settings
An OBS scene name needs to be specified for a layout in the mixer app (And make sure you click "save scene" after)
OBS's browser source needs level 4 or 5 enabled for at least one of the VDO.Ninja scenes that you added to OBS (or set to all scenes, if you disable sources when inactive)
If you hold CTRL down while dragging/resizing elements in the Mixer App, grid-snapping mode is disabled, allowing for fine-grain pixel-level accuracy. ** on alpha at https://vdo.ninja/alpha/mixer (could be some bugs here or there, so please report issues as you find them).
Added the option in the mixer app to use 1080p as the canvas size (instead of 720p) to make it easy to get pixel perfection at full HD.
JSON export is "prettified" so its easier to edit with notepad (rather than being a single long line).
Added a setting to disable auto-slot assignment to the mixer. (requires a hard browser cache refresh of all VDO.Ninja links for the mixer to work properly with this change) * on alpha @ vdo.ninja/alpha/mixer
Added some options for customizing guest links in the mixer app -- one of them is to disable the &broadcast mode. For the time being, guests not in &broadcast mode will have director-issued layouts apply to them. (I may change this to a custom flag instead in the future, as I am still exploring ideas currently to make things intuitive yet flexible)
Side note: It should be possible to assign slots to videos within the normal director mode. Adding &slotmode enables it for the director. While the layout switching options of the mixer will be missing when doing this as a normal director, you can still specify &layout via he URL for multiple scenes that will obey the slot assignments. (might interest advanced users or inspire user suggestions).
Updated beta with a version of the mixer prototype that controls &scene=0 now remotely and doubles as the director. I'm still playing around with integration/UI ideas, but the mixing logic is now mostly there at least. Open to feedback; thank you for feedback / ideas so far. Go here https://vdo.ninja/beta/mixer to play with the updated mixer prototype. A guest link and scene-link are provided, so you just need to enter a room name on page load. Drag guests into a slot, select a layout, and the scene will update. That is, &scene=0 (scene view link), which you need to open in a new tab or in OBS.
I'm open to ideas and thoughts on how this could be integrated into the director's control center; or how best to move forward. I'm off to bed for now though.
